Curiosity & Commitment: Qualities of a Well-Lived Story

Dr. Dan Allender and Rachael Clinton Chen welcome back podcast guest Jimmy McGee, President and CEO of The Impact Movement, to have a conversation about the final two qualities of a well-lived story: curiosity and commitment. According to Dan, Jimmy is one of the most curious people (and voracious readers) that he knows. As they talk with one another about these two qualities of a well-lived story, you’ll hear how Jimmy came to be so deeply curious and his commitments to wholeness and formation and to passing on the gifts that he has been given.


“Part of who I was and my curiosity was the idea of being true to who God made was as a Black, urban Christian and that meant there were certain things in me that I desired to be that White evangelicalism was almost forcing itself upon me of what they desired me to be, and what I found in C.T. Vivian was the embodiment of what I wanted to be in a Black man.” Jimmy McGee

“You have, in many ways, followed the curiosity of your own brokenness to desire something far more. What do you understand with regard to your life that has brought you to this level of intrigue and curiosity?” Dr. Dan Allender

“I’m never afraid to process. If I’m in process then that means I’ve got to go through the process, I can’t rush it, accelerate it, and quite frankly to accelerate my process actually bring more damage to me.” Jimmy McGee

“So often so many of our Christian concepts have been co-opted in ways that are detrimental. When I think about the word integrity, I think that’s what I hear you saying, this sense of what does it mean to have the fragmented parts be integrated as we go and as part of our healing and as part of what it means to be faithful and to have the capacity to bear the responsibility of what we are given?” Rachael Clinton Chen

“The interesting thing… I think you (Dan) brought up is that for whatever reason we think the Christian life is avoiding darkness, actually, the Christian life is seeking darkness—it’s moving to put light in dark spaces and to engage that.” Jimmy McGee